RE: Corpora: overuse an underuse of learner English; International English

From: P. Kaszubski (przemka@amu.edu.pl)
Date: Sat Dec 15 2001 - 23:19:47 MET

  • Next message: Tadeusz Piotrowski: "RE: Corpora: overuse and underuse of learner English; International English"

    On 13 Dec 2001, at 11:18, Tadeusz Piotrowski wrote:

    > By accident, I am a Polish user of English (now I am writing
    > self-consciously, thinking about my own cluster of errors...), and by
    > accident I know an interesting PhD dissertation that compares selected
    > aspects of natives-speaker English to those of a non-native variety,
    > comparing like with like: Przemyslaw Kaszubski Selected aspects of
    > lexicon, phraseology and style in the writing of Polish advanced
    > learners of English, a contrastive, corpus-based approach. Poznan 2000
    > (przemka@elex.amu.edu.pl). He hoped to publish it.

    Great many thanks are due to my reviewer Prof. Piotrowski for
    publicising my modest effort on this forum. The original version of
    the PhD can be downloaded from:

    http://main.amu.edu.pl/~przemka/rsearch.html

    The files are in pdf, and some of them are password-protected.
    Researchers willing to consult these files should e-mail me first.

    My own opinion on the issue of whether applied linguists should or
    should not measure interlanguage corpora against control native-
    speaker data parallels what Simon G. J. Smith wrote: "in general,
    surely, the native speaker variety of a language is in some sense
    the correct one, and thereby automatically has a different status
    from that of other varieties. Otherwise what yardstick, in the
    descriptive tradition, do we have for judging what is well-formed
    and what is not?" Regardless of the changing status of English as a
    lingua franca (cf. Kachru's 'expanding circle'), EFL learners often do
    demand to be told what is 'correct'. While often there may not be
    one satisfying answer to such demands, what teachers et al. can do
    is attempt to give a multiple probabilistic answer, such as that in
    genre X an educated American would probably write Y, while his
    British counterpart might also consider Z etc etc. In cross-corpus
    analysis involving learner corpora (which in the end serves to
    illuminate language instruction) it is absolutely vital to be aware of
    what sort of corpus/corpora we offer as control data, to be sensitive
    to sociological and textual variables *especially* when we cannot
    give an exact match for the experimental data. The ability to derive
    tentative conclusions (whether it's overuse, underuse or misuse that
    we've detected) from such analyses is likewise a precious faculty.
    Let alone allowing certain statistical manipulation, one way of
    ensuring that we're getting more or less accurate findings about a
    given IL is to compare many different corpora of as like textual
    nature (same genre, at the very least) as it is possible - featuring
    such dichotomies/continua as: native-vs non-native, adult vs.
    adolescent vs child performance (for both L1 and L2 concerned),
    advanced vs. intermediate vs. beginner learners etc,
    interlanguage1 (IL1) vs IL2 vs IL3 (i.e. from different mother
    backgrounds) etc, etc. It is my belief that only statistical
    comparisons of such complex kind can produce fairly reliable and
    pedagogically USEFUL data we can confidently tell our students
    about.

    Would I want to teach my students International English? Sure, but I
    would also like to know how it relates to British/American standards
    and naturalness of expression (for genre A, B etc). Barbara
    Seidlhofer's project is an important step towards capturing this
    relation.

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