Re: Corpora: sloppiness in e-mails

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    > From: Steven Krauwer <steven.krauwer@let.uu.nl>
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    > To: Geoffrey Sampson <geoffs@cogs.susx.ac.uk>
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    > Subject: Re: Corpora: sloppiness in e-mails
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    > Geoffrey Sampson wrote:
    >
    > > With due respect to Ramesh, I can't see this myself. To me, sloppily-
    > > expressed e-mails are just selfishness. In the days when written
    > > communication went via paper, there was a clear social convention that the
    > > burden was on the writer to make the reader's task as easy as possible by
    > > putting in the effort necessary to produce the "cleanest" fair copy he
    > > could.
    > ...
    > > I don't understand
    > > what virtue there is in "spontaneity" that might offset this. Spontaneous
    > > communication sounds like a polite way of referring to over-hasty,
    > > ill-thought-out communication; we are all bombarded with far more
    > > communications than we can deal with anyway, so I for one would much prefer
    > > the incoming stuff to be carefully filtered by its senders before
    > > transmission.
    >
    > There seems to be an underlying assumption here that emails should
    > primarily be seen as the successors of written letters, transported
    > via a different medium. I'm not so sure that this is the case. If I
    > look at the emails I send out and receive, I can distinguish at least
    > three different categories:
    > - ordinary letters: the type Geoffrey is referring to
    > - chat: quick, spontaneous communications
    > - documents sent as attachments (reports, articles, etc)
    >
    > They are all used in different ways, in different contexts, and
    > have different requirements.
    >
    > I write most of my ordinary letters off-line, in plain ASCII,
    > with a decent editor, reasonably formatted, and sometimes even
    > checked for typos and spelling errors, very much the way I did
    > it before I started using computers.
    >
    > Chat is always written on-line, hardly ever corrected, poorly
    > formatted -- very similar to what happens when I speak. Geofffrey,
    > are you implying that this is an improper way of communicating, or
    > is your message that even for spoken communication you would prefer
    > people to read their (gramatically correct) sentences from a piece
    > of paper?
    >
    > Attachments come in various types, some of which require special
    > software, as Geoffrey correctly points out -- but isn't this a small
    > and easy to remedy disadvantage compared to the advantage of being
    > able to exchange documents (for information or for collaborative
    > authoring) within seconds (as opposed to weeks as we had in the
    > past)? It would of course have been much better if we had one
    > generally accepted standard format for document exchange, just as
    > it would have been easier if we all used the same metric system,
    > the same voltage and the same currency.
    >
    > But I wonder how big the problem really is, and how many different
    > formats we use in our day-to-day communications. I had a quick look
    > at my own mail archive, and the only formats I encountered were
    > MS Word, RTF, PostScript, PDF, LaTeX and HTML (plus a birthday
    > card with music from my daughter).
    >
    > I don't remember to have spent more than a few minutes finding
    > and installing viewers for each of them, except for LaTeX, which
    > is indeed a real pain in the neck (and here I follow Geoffrey's
    > strategy: off to the dustbin unopened -- and please do not
    > interpret this as a quality judgement, because it is a wonderful
    > product in many respects!).
    >
    > To summarize: I would say that Geoffrey is right about email
    > letters, wrong in ignoring the spontaneous chat function of
    > email, and he seems to be exaggerating the disadvanteges and
    > ignoring the advantages of sending documents as attachments.
    >
    > Steven
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