Re: Corpora: Query/Discussion: Prep+relative who

Douglas McCarthy (saltertn@ecp.fr)
Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:52:43 +0200

Given that the name of this list is "corpora", I'm a little surprised at
the amount of introspective speculation which we've seen in this thread.

Perhaps we ought to bear two things in mind here:

1. differentiation of language varieties (a virtually endless task)

2. design of neutral elicitation of people's attitudes to language use.

In answer to the original question: yes, the forms quoted are highly
possible today. That is about as far as I would like to go in the
context of a list devoted to corpora.

Best regards,

Douglas McCarthy

Steve Finch wrote:
>
> Gordon and Pam Cain writes:
> >Dear all who are interested--
> >
> >Steve Finch wrote:
> >
> >> (2), however, is perfectly acceptable; 'whom' sounds very odd there.
> >Funny, that one particularly grates at me -- I think it very much needs 'whom'
> >! Perhaps further confirmation
> >that going by what we individually feel is not very reliable!
>
> One regularity (to me) seems to be that I can never get 'whom' if I
> stress it, and 'who' sometimes sounds a little odd if it isn't
> stressed. Thus I can get (8) (which seems contradictory) by varying
> the appropriate stress. I'm a native Estuary speaker, so (2) requires
> (or strongly invites) me to strongly stress the 'few' and the 'who'
> (even when not speaking with an Essex accent; I've noticed in general
> that stress patterns tend to transcend accent shifts). (2) indeed
> sounds odd if I don't stress 'who'.
>
> - Steve.
>
> >> >
> >> >All but (8) are from written sources.
> >> >
> >> >(2) It's almost impossible to put him down in the tackle, and
> >> >there are few players about who you an [sic; probably 'can' is
> >> >intended] say that. (CB2: 396)
> >> >(4) It has one senior bishop, two suffragans, one dean, four
> >> >archdeacons, and 21 rural deans of who one is a woman. (ED9: 3029)
> >> >(5) They must be treated as adequate because they reflect the
> >> >statutory provisions in regard to appeals by persons upon who
> >> >intervention notices are served
> >> >(6) Instead, the sites are used by local residents, of who some 25
> >> >per or so come by foot
> >> >(7) Through its founder Molly Braithwaite, for who we held a
> >> >heartfelt admiration,
> >> >(8) I would also I think put in a word for the work of the joint
> >> >[...] policy panel [...] which is shared between this committee and
> >> >the social services committee because it seems to me that it is not
> >> >[unclear] for us to be thinking that there is a group of children for
> >> >who nursery education is necessary [...] or desirable and a different
> >> >group of children for whom something else [...] is necessary
> >> >
> >> >Dr. Carsten Breul
> >--
> >Gordon Cain, Teacher of ESOL
> >TAFE International Education Centre, Liverpool
> >Sydney, Australia
> >gpcain@rivernet.com.au
> >